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Do your pagan and lolita styles mesh?
by Chelsea Belle (emilie_rainbow)
at June 11th, 2011 (07:12 pm)
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current mood: thoughtful

Hello all! This community is so dead. :( I thought I'd try to liven it up with a bit of discussion!



Let me clarify my question with a story. Friday night, I went to my very first Wiccan circle. It was very exciting, as I've always been a solitary practitioner and I've only recently become comfortable enough in my practice to consider sharing it with others. It was a women's circle, dedicated to the goddess Hekate. It was fabulous and I can't wait to attend my next circle...but I felt slightly out of place.

I'm a sweet Lolita. I vary from maiden-ish, classic sweet to fairy-kei inspired OTT. I didn't wear Loli to the circle, but I did wear a very feminine dress, lots of pink, and tea party shoes. I also have glittery fake nails, pink streaks in my hair, and in general a very obvious girly Lolita-inspired aesthetic. All of the other women in attendance had dressed in a very pagan/hippie/woman of the Earth sort of style. The aesthetic difference was very apparent. It didn't cause any sort of issue, but my discomfort at having SUCH a different self-created image was something I had to overcome.

So...do any other Lolitas deal with this? The stereotypical image of a pagan, at least what I've always thought of as the stereotype, is a lot more in the pagan hippie witch style vein than something that fits with Lolita. Do these two images conflict for anyone else? I also wonder if it's different for Goth Lolis, or Classic Lolis, as opposed to Sweet.

Thoughts?

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Posted by: the alchemist (randomisgemini)
Posted at: June 12th, 2011 03:12 am (UTC)

i guess it's easier on me because my lolita style is gothy, mori, aristocrat so most of my lolita pieces also work in a more earthy girl hippie pagan style as well. but i know a wiccan girl at my school who isn't lolita but is very japan crazy so she's always got amazing nails, hair, and makeup. she makes it work and does like element themed outfits and fun stuff! i think the two can live happily together because it's about what makes your heart sing.

Posted by: Chelsea Belle (emilie_rainbow)
Posted at: June 13th, 2011 12:37 am (UTC)

I can see how gothy/mori/aristo type style would work in a little better with the common pagan aesthetic. That's cool about the girl you know though! Coordinating elemental outfits is such an interesting idea. I definitely think Lolita and paganism can coexist, you're right about both being what makes one's hear sing (I really like that phrasing, by the way). I actually feel "witchy", for lack of a better word, when I'm in maidenly sort of outfits, but it's more that it makes me stand out amongst other pagans that's an issue, I think.

Posted by: the alchemist (randomisgemini)
Posted at: June 13th, 2011 03:35 am (UTC)

it really does, since there's the whole goth undercurrent you can find in pagan settings. thank you, it's one of my favorite phrases and i really believe it! i know what you mean, i definitely feel witchy when i'm wearing something i really love. i already stand out with my philosophies compared to most of my pagan friends, so i guess i don't notice it as much but i definitely know what you mean!

Posted by: sparklewolfie (sparklewolfie)
Posted at: June 12th, 2011 03:03 pm (UTC)
Rose House

Hm, I actually stopped practicing when I got into Lolita. I didn't stop BECAUSE of Lolita, but I just sort of went from researching and crawling Wicca Forums (now gone) to researching Lolita and crawling EGL XD

Really, I don't think it should matter what you look like though :) And since it sounds like your circle members didn't mind either, so that's great!

It would be cool if somebody came up with a Lolita circle though XD

Posted by: Chelsea Belle (emilie_rainbow)
Posted at: June 13th, 2011 12:59 am (UTC)

I can totally see how Lolita could sort-of-but-not-really push practicing Wicca out of your life. They can both be very all encompassing...I don't want to say hobbies, because Wicca isn't a hobby, but researching Wicca definitely can be. It makes sense that there could not be enough room for both in a person's life.

I don't think my circle members cared (they didn't say anything and were nice and welcoming overall!) it was more an issue of comfort and "fitting in".

I would LOVE to have a Lolita circle!! There are so many possibilities with that, my goodness, it would be amazing.

Posted by: sparklewolfie (sparklewolfie)
Posted at: June 13th, 2011 12:51 pm (UTC)

Yea I still believe in the Rede and the God and Goddess, but I haven't actually observed any Sabbats, Esbats, or done any meditation etc. since I started getting into Lolita >_<

Omg I want a Lolita circle *_* That would be awesome!

Posted by: Chelsea Belle (emilie_rainbow)
Posted at: June 14th, 2011 04:17 am (UTC)

Aw, don't worry, as long as you believe I think you'll come back to it. I've been in and out of Wicca for the past liiiiiike 10 years, I believe? It's always there for your when you feel that spark again. Kind of like Lolita, haha, people feel off but usually come back. :)

Posted by: Alyssa Glass (Alyssa Glass)
Posted at: July 6th, 2012 03:52 pm (UTC)

I, too, am a Wiccan Lolita and my stlye of lolita is very much EGA.

One thing you should understand is that a good 99% of the Wiccan community promote individuality, especially within the Women's Community. As long as you are true to you then they will accept you. There are ways, however, to mix both the pagan fashion and lolita together.

Aristocrat IS easier to mix, but it isn't impossible to mix Sweet with pagan. Be creative and be you! If you must, have a small wardrobe of earthy clothing for Circles. Remember that you are one of a kind and the more "off the charts" you are, the more unique traits you have to bring to the people you associate with.

Have fun!
-Alyssa

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